Cannot Learn Codes for an old Jerrold Box

[sixdoubleo]

I have an old Jerrold Analog Cable box and a USB-UIRT. It's one of those wood-grain metal boxes. I am unable to learn any of the buttons on the remote with the USB-UIRT. I am able to take my Sony Universal remote (RM-V402) and key in the code for the Jarrold and the remote works fine. But the USB-UIRT wont learn from that remote either. When I point either remote at the USB-UIRT I get no light whatsoever. I can learn other remotes just fine.

I have the 56K version if that matters. I am flashed to the latest BIOS on the UIRT unit.

Thanks!

[jrhees]

First thing to try is to see if we can get an 'IR debug' capture of the remote. To do this, choose 'IR Debug' instead of 'Learn' in the USB-UIRT dialog, and then press and hold a button on the remote while holding it close (approx 3 inches) and aimed just to the left of the RED LED, and see if you can get the progress bar to climb and finish.

-Jon

[sixdoubleo]

First thing to try is to see if we can get an 'IR debug' capture of the remote. To do this, choose 'IR Debug' instead of 'Learn' in the USB-UIRT dialog, and then press and hold a button on the remote while holding it close (approx 3 inches) and aimed just to the left of the RED LED, and see if you can get the progress bar to climb and finish.

-Jon

Arrg...hotmail had you flagged as junk mail. OK, here is the IR Debug from pressing "0".

3955 0091 000 6F0F 0081 000 49E2 0081 000 4A0F 0081 000 6F15 0081 000 49E2 0081 000 FFFF
01D1 0083 000 6F15 0081 000 49E2 0081 000 4A0F 0081 000 6F15 0081 000 49E2 0081 000 FFFF
01CE 008A 000 6F15 0081 000 49E2 0081 000 4A0F 0081 000 6F15 0081 000 49E2 0081 000 FFFF
01CE 008A 000 6F10 0081 000 49E0 0088 000 4A0A 0081 000 6F17 0081 000 49E0 0081 000 FFFF
01CE 008A 000 6F15 0081 000 49E2 0081 000 4A0F 0081 000 6F15 0081 000 49E2 0081 000 FFFF
01CE 0083 000 6F17 0081 000 49E0 0081 000 4A11 0081 000 6F12 0081 000 49E2 0081 000 FFFF
01CE 008A 000 6F10 0081 000 49E5 0081 000 4A0F 0081 000 6F15 0081 000 49DD 0081 000 FFFF
01CE 008A 000 6F15 0081 000 49E2 0081 000 4A0F 0081 000 6F15 0081 000 49E2 0081 000 FFFF
01CE 0083 000 6F17 0081 000 49E0 0081 000 4A11 0081 000 6F12 0081 000 49E2 0081 000 FFFF
01CE 008A 000 6F10 0081 000 49E5 0081 000 4A0F 0081 000 6F15 0081 000 49E2 007A 000 FFFF
01CE 0083 000 6F1C 007A 000 49E5 0081 000 4A0F 007A 000 6F1F 007A 000 49E4 0081 000 FFFF
01CE 008A 000 6F17 007A 000 49EA 007A 000 4A12 007A 000 6F1C 007A 000 49E9 007A 000 FFFF
01CE 0083 000 6F17 007A 000 49EA 007A 000 4A14 0081 000 6F17 007A 000 49E7 0081 000 FFFF
01CE 008A 000 6F15 0081 000 49E2 0081 000 4A0F 0081 000 6F15 0081 000 49E2 0081 000 FFFF
01CE 0083 000 6F17 0081 000 49E0 0081 000 4A11 007A 000 6F19 0081 000 49E2 007A 000 FFFF
01CE 0083 000 6F17 007A 000 49EA 0073 000 4A1E 0073 000 6F1F 007A 000 49EA 0073 000 FFFF
01CE 007C 000 6F21 0073 000 49EE 0073 000 4A1E 006C 000 6F2B 006C 000 49F8 006C 000 FFFF
01CE 0075 000 6F2D 0065 000 49FD 0065 000 4A28 0065 000 6F32 0065 000 49FB 0065 000 FFFF
01CE 0067 000 6F30 0065 000 4A00 005E 000 4A30 0065 000 6F33 005E 000 4A03 0065 000 FFFF
01CE 0067 000 6F38 005E 000 4A00 0065 000 4A2F 005E 000 6F38 005E 000 4A00 0065 000 FFFF

[jrhees]

OK, this might be a firmware issue. Please flash your USB-UIRT to the latest firmware version and retry the IR Debug. To do this, get the firmware and updater from www.usbuirt.com/latestFirmware.zip

-Jon

[sixdoubleo]

OK, this might be a firmware issue. Please flash your USB-UIRT to the latest firmware version and retry the IR Debug. To do this, get the firmware and updater from www.usbuirt.com/latestFirmware.zip

-Jon

Jon,

I updated the firmware, but no dice. The unit doesn't flash when I press buttons. My uuirtdrv.dll is version 2.6.6.0. I uninstalled and resintalled the USB-UIRT just in case. Still no luck.

I DID notice that with Girder I can learn the Volume Up and Down buttons. But I can't learn the digits or the channel up and down. FYI, girder reports the Volume up as "1F008A5401D0" and the Volume down as "1F008A5415D0". Does that help any???

[sixdoubleo]

OK, this might be a firmware issue. Please flash your USB-UIRT to the latest firmware version and retry the IR Debug. To do this, get the firmware and updater from www.usbuirt.com/latestFirmware.zip

-Jon

Oh, almost forgot. Here is the new IR Debug:

BE7E 0075 000 6F23 0073 000 49EA 006C 000 4A23 006C 000 6F24 0073 000 49EC 0073 000 FFFF
01D1 0075 000 6F1F 0073 000 49EF 006C 000 4A21 006C 000 6F21 0073 000 49EC 0073 000 FFFF
01CE 0075 000 6F23 006C 000 49EF 0073 000 4A1C 0073 000 6F1C 0073 000 49EF 006C 000 FFFF
01CE 007C 000 6F1E 006C 000 49F1 0073 000 4A1B 0073 000 6F1F 0073 000 49EA 0073 000 FFFF
01CE 007C 000 6F1C 0073 000 49EF 006C 000 4A1C 0073 000 6F21 0073 000 49EC 0073 000 FFFF
01CE 0075 000 6F1E 0073 000 49EC 0073 000 4A1C 0073 000 6F1C 0073 000 49EF 0073 000 FFFF
01CE 007C 000 6F21 0073 000 49EC 006C 000 4A21 006C 000 6F21 0073 000 49EC 0073 000 FFFF
01CE 0075 000 6F23 0073 000 49EA 006C 000 4A23 006C 000 6F24 006C 000 49F3 0073 000 FFFF
01CE 007C 000 6F21 0073 000 49E9 0073 000 4A1B 0073 000 6F1F 0073 000 49EA 0073 000 FFFF
01CE 007C 000 6F1C 0073 000 49EF 0073 000 4A17 0073 000 6F1E 0073 000 49EC 0073 000 FFFF
01CE 0075 000 6F23 006C 000 49F1 0073 000 4A19 0073 000 6F1C 0073 000 49EF 0073 000 FFFF
01CE 0075 000 6F1E 0073 000 49EC 0073 000 4A1C 0073 000 6F1C 0073 000 49EA 0073 000 FFFF
01CE 007C 000 6F1C 0073 000 49EF 0073 000 4A16 0073 000 6F21 0073 000 49EE 006C 000 FFFF
01CE 0075 000 6F23 0073 000 49EA 006C 000 4A23 006C 000 6F24 006C 000 49F1 0073 000 FFFF
01CE 007C 000 6F21 0073 000 49EC 0073 000 4A17 0073 000 6F1F 0073 000 49EE 0073 000 FFFF
01CE 007C 000 6F1C 0073 000 49EF 006C 000 4A21 0073 000 6F1F 006C 000 49EF 0073 000 FFFF
01CE 0075 000 6F23 0073 000 49EA 0073 000 4A19 0073 000 6F21 006C 000 49F3 006C 000 FFFF
01CE 0075 000 6F1E 0073 000 49EC 0073 000 4A1C 006C 000 6F26 0073 000 49EC 006C 000 FFFF
01CE 007C 000 6F1C 0073 000 49EF 006C 000 4A21 0073 000 6F1A 0073 000 49EC 0073 000 FFFF
01CE 0075 000 6F23 0073 000 49EA 0073 000 4A19 0073 000 6F21 006C 000 49F3 006C 000 FFFF

[jrhees]

Can you tell me what model Jerrold it is?

Thanks,

Jon

[sixdoubleo]

Can you tell me what model Jerrold it is?

Thanks,

Jon

Jerrold 550 Model DP5-212

Made by:

Jerrold Division
General Instrument Corporation

[jrhees]

OK,

Watch this topic -- I'll get back to you in a little while -- your remote uses DC (no modulation) and the learn/import process currently doesn't support that -- but it *will*!

-Jon

[Guest]

OK,

Watch this topic -- I'll get back to you in a little while -- your remote uses DC (no modulation) and the learn/import process currently doesn't support that -- but it *will*!

-Jon

Jon,

Even though the USB-UIRT cannot LEARN this remote, I am assuming that it can TRANSMIT the codes if it already knew them....correct?

Is there somewhere I can go to find out what the codes are for this cable box and then manually input them? I am using SageTV so all it needs to know are the codes for 0-9 so it can change channels. If I'm not mistaken, Sage has an IR properties file which tells the USB-UIRT what codes to transmit. That being the case, should I be able to query some online codes database to get some Jerrold codes to try?

[sixdoubleo]

OK,

Watch this topic -- I'll get back to you in a little while -- your remote uses DC (no modulation) and the learn/import process currently doesn't support that -- but it *will*!

-Jon

Jon,

Even though the USB-UIRT cannot LEARN this remote, I am assuming that it can TRANSMIT the codes if it already knew them....correct?

Is there somewhere I can go to find out what the codes are for this cable box and then manually input them? I am using SageTV so all it needs to know are the codes for 0-9 so it can change channels. If I'm not mistaken, Sage has an IR properties file which tells the USB-UIRT what codes to transmit. That being the case, should I be able to query some online codes database to get some Jerrold codes to try?

(sorry for the duplicate post....I forgot to log in)

Dave

[jrhees]

Yes, this is more or less true. However, the code modification to handle DC pronto codes is not in place for supporting plugins like the Sage one. I will need to work on it...

-Jon

[sixdoubleo]

Yes, this is more or less true. However, the code modification to handle DC pronto codes is not in place for supporting plugins like the Sage one. I will need to work on it...

-Jon

So the codes that I see in a SageTV remote file are NOT pronto codes?

[jrhees]

Actually they *are* pronto codes. However, if you look at a DC pronto code, a special bit is set in the code which signifies DC. The current USB-UIRT driver can handle this in some cases. However, most Pronto codesets you'll find with DC codes will have been learned by a Pronto device which tends to use a code frequency (which is still used as a timebase) of >300KHz. The driver needs to be modified to handle such codes.

-Jon

[Guest]

Jon - For what it's worth I also seem to be having the same problems with a Jerrold cable box. Mine is model numbe 5508. The USB-UIRT will give a couple of flashes when I first press the button on the remote but nothing more if I hold the button down.

If this helps, here's the IR Debug from pressing "0" on my remote (I have to press it repeatedly to fill up the Learn Progress status bar):

1B66 0FB5 02B 1002 0FAC 02B 0FFE 0FAC 02B FFFF
0351 0FE1 02C 0FCE 0FDD 02C 0FC9 0FE2 02C FFFF
2693 003D 000 FFFF
34EF 0FB5 02B 0FFB 0FAD 02B 0FFE 0FAC 02B FFFF
0351 0FB1 02B 0FFE 0FAF 02B 0FFB 0FB0 02B FFFF
2C79 003D 000 FFFF
3917 0FEA 02C 0FC6 0FE2 02C 0FC9 0FDF 02C FFFF
0351 0FBB 02B 0FF6 0FB4 02B 0FF6 0FB2 02B FFFF
3235 0036 000 FFFF
3F7C 0FB3 02B 0FFA 0FB0 02B 0FFD 0FAB 02B FFFF
0351 0FE6 02C 0FC6 0FE3 02C 0FC9 0FDF 02C FFFF
2F41 003D 000 FFFF
34FD 0FB5 02B 1000 0FAD 02B 0FFB 0FAF 02B FFFF
0351 0FE7 02C 0FC8 0FE1 02C 0FCB 0FDD 02C FFFF
325F 003D 000 FFFF
3647 0FB1 02B 0FFF 0FAE 02B 0FFB 0FAE 02B FFFF
0351 0FE4 02C 0FCB 0FE0 02C 0FCB 0FDB 02C FFFF
3527 003D 000 FFFF
441F 0FB8 02B 0FF8 0FAE 02B 0FFE 0FAD 02B FFFF
0351 0FE2 02C 0FCE 0FDB 02C 0FCE 0FDD 02C FFFF

Do you have any status update on the code modification to handle the DC pronto codes?