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I am having trouble getting the Girder USB Uirt to learn the commands from a Delphi SKIFi remote. I think others are having this problem but I despite searching hi and low I can not seem to get a comment on what is unique about this remote. The following is what is output when I use the IR debug feature in the plugin trying to learn the number 1 from the remote.

BA AD 11 6A 40 08 DC 08 8C 20 11 63 08 8D 20 08 D9 11 59 40 11 6A 08 8C 20 08 D5 11 70 40 08 DF 08 8F 20 08 E1 08 8C 20 08 E2 08 8C 20 08 DF 08 8F 20 11 6F 08 91 20 FF
06 C4 11 68 40 08 D7 08 91 20 11 63 08 8D 20 08 D7 11 5F 40 11 63 08 8F 20 08 D3 11 6E 40 08 E1 08 8D 20 08 E4 08 8A 20 08 E1 08 8D 20 08 E3 08 8F 20 11 6F 08 8D 20 FF
06 C4 11 65 40 08 DA 08 8D 20 11 65 08 91 20 08 D5 11 5E 40 11 63 08 8F 20 08 D3 11 70 40 08 E2 08 8C 20 08 DF 08 8F 20 08 E1 08 8F 20 08 DF 08 8F 20 11 6F 08 8D 20 FF
06 C4 11 65 40 08 DA 08 8D 20 11 65 08 91 20 08 D5 11 5E 40 11 63 08 8F 20 08 D3 11 70 40 08 E2 08 8C 20 08 DF 08 8D 20 08 E1 08 8D 20 08 E3 08 8F 20 11 6F 08 8D 20 FF
06 C4 11 63 40 08 DD 08 8F 20 11 63 08 8D 20 08 D7 11 5F 40 11 63 08 8F 20 08 D3 11 70 40 08 E2 08 8A 20 08 E4 08 8A 20 08 E1 08 8D 20 08 E3 08 8F 20 11 6F 08 8D 20 FF
06 C4 11 63 40 08 DD 08 8F 20 11 63 08 91 20 08 D0 11 5E 40 11 6A 08 8A 20 08 D7 11 70 40 08 DF 08 8F 20 08 E1 08 8C 20 08 DE 08 91 20 08 DF 08 8F 20 11 6F 08 91 20 FF
06 C4 11 65 40 08 DF 08 8A 20 11 67 08 8F 20 08 D5 11 5A 40 11 6A 08 8C 20 08 D5 11 70 40 08 DF 08 8F 20 08 E1 08 8C 20 08 E2 08 8C 20 08 DF 08 8D 20 11 74 08 8F 20 FF
06 C4 11 65 40 08 DF 08 8A 20 11 66 08 8D 20 08 D8 11 5A 40 11 67 08 8F 20 08 D5 11 70 40 08 DC 08 91 20 08 E1 08 8A 20 08 E1 08 8D 20 08 E4 08 8F 20 11 72 08 8C 20 FF
06 C4 11 6A 40 08 D9 08 8F 20 11 65 08 8F 20 08 D2 11 5C 40 11 66 08 91 20 08 D2 11 6E 40 08 E4 08 8A 20 08 E1 08 8D 20 08 E3 08 8F 20 08 E1 08 8A 20 11 74 08 8F 20 FF
06 C4 11 68 40 08 DC 08 91 20 11 65 08 8F 20 08 D4 11 5E 40 11 65 08 8A 20 08 D5 11 6E 40 08 E4 08 8F 20 08 DF 08 8F 20 08 DC 08 91 20 08 DE 08 8D 20 11 76 08 8A 20 FF
06 C4 11 6C 40 08 DA 08 8F 20 11 62 08 91 20 08 D4 11 5F 40 11 62 08 91 20 08 D4 11 70 40 08 DD 08 8D 20 08 E3 08 8F 20 08 E1 08 8C 20 08 E2 08 8A 20 11 72 08 8D 20 FF
06 C4 11 6A 40 08 DD 08 8F 20 11 63 08 8D 20 08 D7 11 5F 40 11 63 08 8F 20 08 D3 11 70 40 08 E2 08 8A 20 08 E4 08 8A 20 08 E1 08 8D 20 08 E3 08 8F 20 11 6F 08 8D 20 FF
06 C4 11 67 40 08 DC 08 8F 20 11 65 08 8A 20 08 D8 11 5E 40 11 63 08 8F 20 08 D5 11 6B 40 08 E3 08 8F 20 08 E1 08 8A 20 08 E1 08 8D 20 08 E4 08 8A 20 11 74 08 8F 20 FF
06 C4 11 6A 40 08 D9 08 8F 20 11 65 08 8F 20 08 D2 11 61 40 11 65 08 8A 20 08 D5 11 6E 40 08 E4 08 8A 20 08 E1 08 91 20 08 DF 08 8F 20 08 E1 08 8A 20 11 74 08 8F 20 FF
06 C4 11 6C 40 08 DD 08 8A 20 11 65 08 91 20 08 D4 11 5F 40 11 62 08 8D 20 08 D5 11 6E 40 08 E4 08 8A 20 08 E1 08 91 20 08 E1 08 8A 20 08 E1 08 8D 20 11 75 08 8F 20 FF
06 C4 11 63 40 08 DD 08 8F 20 11 63 08 8D 20 08 D7 11 5F 40 11 63 08 8F 20 08 D3 11 70 40 08 E2 08 8A 20 08 E4 08 8A 20 08 E1 08 8D 20 08 E3 08 8F 20 11 6F 08 8D 20 FF
06 C4 11 65 40 08 DF 08 8A 20 11 66 08 91 20 08 D2 11 5C 40 11 67 08 8F 20 08 D5 11 70 40 08 DC 08 91 20 08 E1 08 8A 20 08 E1 08 91 20 08 E1 08 8A 20 11 74 08 8F 20 FF
06 C4 11 6A 40 08 D8 08 91 20 11 65 08 8F 20 08 D4 11 5E 40 11 65 08 8A 20 08 D5 11 6E 40 08 E4 08 8F 20 08 DF 08 8F 20 08 DC 08 91 20 08 DE 08 8D 20 11 76 08 8A 20 FF
06 C4 11 65 40 08 DA 08 8F 20 11 63 08 8F 20 08 D3 11 5C 40 11 6A 08 8C 20 08 D4 11 70 40 08 DD 08 91 20 08 DF 08 8F 20 08 E1 08 8F 20 08 DF 08 8F 20 11 6F 08 8D 20 FF
06 C4 11 65 40 08 DF 08 8A 20 11 66 08 91 20 08 D2 11 5C 40 11 67 08 8F 20 08 D5 11 70 40 08 DC 08 91 20 08 E1 08 8A 20 08 E1 08 91 20 08 E1 08 8C 20 11 71 08 8F 20 FF


Sorry... I don't know how to format it better. Can anyone help me??

Ed

Yikes that's an old version of the Girder plugin! The format has changed -- can you download the plugin from www.usbuirt.com/latestGirderPlugin.zip and redo your IR debug?

Thanks,

Jon

Well, I'll do that, but I have only been using it since January. Look for me in a couple of minutes.

Well of course you were right. Although I did not play extensively it still does not work. Here is the code....

E925 116C 040 08DA 088F 020 1166 088C 020 08D4 115A 040 1168 088F 020 08D2 1170 040 08E1 088C 020 08DE 088D 020 08E3 088A 020 08E4 088A 020 1174 088F 020 FFFF
06C4 1162 040 08E1 088A 020 1165 088F 020 08D2 115E 040 1168 0888 020 08D8 116E 040 08DF 088E 020 08E1 088A 020 08E6 088A 020 08E4 0887 020 1177 088B 020 FFFF
06C4 1164 040 08DE 088B 020 1165 0890 020 08D4 1157 040 1167 088F 020 08D5 1171 040 08DC 088E 020 08E1 0890 020 08DF 088F 020 08E1 0889 020 1174 088B 020 FFFF
4B96 1168 040 08DF 088C 020 1163 088D 020 08D8 1159 040 1165 0891 020 08D5 116D 040 08E2 088C 020 08DF 088F 020 08E1 088C 020 08E2 088C 020 1172 088A 020 FFFF
06C4 116A 040 08DC 088C 020 1163 088D 020 08D4 115D 040 1165 0891 020 08D3 1170 040 08DD 088D 020 08E3 088F 020 08DC 0891 020 08DD 0891 020 1172 088C 020 FFFF
06C4 116A 040 08DC 088A 020 1167 088F 020 08D0 115E 040 1165 0891 020 08D3 1170 040 08DD 088D 020 08E3 088F 020 08DC 0891 020 08DD 088D 020 1171 0891 020 FFFF
06C4 116A 040 08DC 088A 020 1167 088F 020 08D0 115E 040 1165 0891 020 08D3 1170 040 08DD 088D 020 08E3 088F 020 08DC 0891 020 08DD 088D 020 1171 0891 020 FFFF
06C4 116A 040 08DC 088A 020 1167 088F 020 08D0 115E 040 1165 0891 020 08D3 1170 040 08DD 088D 020 08E3 088F 020 08DC 0891 020 08DD 0891 020 116D 0891 020 FFFF
06C4 1168 040 08DF 088C 020 1163 088D 020 08D4 1160 040 1166 088A 020 08D7 116B 040 08E1 0891 020 08DF 088F 020 08DC 0891 020 08DD 0891 020 1172 088C 020 FFFF
06C4 1168 040 08DF 088A 020 1166 088F 020 08D5 1159 040 1165 0891 020 08D3 1170 040 08DD 0891 020 08DF 088F 020 08DC 0891 020 08DD 0891 020 1172 088A 020 FFFF
06C4 116A 040 08DC 088A 020 1166 088D 020 08D3 115E 040 1165 0891 020 08D0 1172 040 08DD 0891 020 08DF 088F 020 08E1 088C 020 08DD 0891 020 1172 088A 020 FFFF
06C4 1168 040 08DF 088A 020 1168 088A 020 08D8 1159 040 1165 0891 020 08D0 1170 040 08E1 088F 020 08DF 088F 020 08E1 088A 020 08E1 088D 020 1172 088D 020 FFFF
06C4 116A 040 08DC 088A 020 1168 088F 020 08D2 115F 040 1163 088F 020 08D0 1172 040 08DF 088F 020 08E1 088A 020 08E1 088F 020 08DF 088F 020 116F 0891 020 FFFF
06C4 1165 040 08D8 088D 020 1168 088A 020 08D5 115F 040 1163 0891 020 08D0 1172 040 08DF 088F 020 08E1 088C 020 08DE 0891 020 08DF 088F 020 116F 088F 020 FFFF
06C4 1165 040 08D8 0891 020 1165 088A 020 08D5 115C 040 1166 088D 020 08D3 1172 040 08DF 088F 020 08E1 088A 020 08E1 088D 020 08E2 088F 020 116F 088D 020 FFFF
06C4 1163 040 08DC 088F 020 1165 088F 020 08CF 115E 040 1168 088F 020 08D2 1170 040 08DC 0891 020 08E1 088A 020 08E1 088D 020 08E4 088C 020 116F 0891 020 FFFF
06C4 1167 040 08DA 088F 020 1162 0891 020 08D4 115A 040 1168 088A 020 08D5 116E 040 08E4 088A 020 08E1 088D 020 08E3 088A 020 08E4 088A 020 1174 088F 020 FFFF
06C4 1167 040 08DA 088F 020 1166 088A 020 08D7 115A 040 1168 088A 020 08D5 116E 040 08E4 088A 020 08E1 088D 020 08E2 088F 020 08E1 088C 020 1170 088F 020 FFFF
06C4 116A 040 08D7 0891 020 1163 088F 020 08D0 115E 040 1165 0891 020 08D4 116B 040 08E4 088A 020 08E1 088D 020 08E4 088A 020 08E1 088F 020 1172 088A 020 FFFF
06C4 116A 040 08D7 0891 020 1163 088F 020 08D5 1159 040 1165 0891 020 08D3 1170 040 08DD 088D 020 08E3 088F 020 08DC 0891 020 08DD 0891 020 1172 088C 020 FFFF

Thanks

I don't see anything unusual about this code...

Does it successfully learn (but doesn't work when transmitted)? If so, can you post the learned code?

When learning, try learning in Raw mode (check the 'Force Raw... box).

Also when transmitting, try using a higher repeat value.

-Jon

t successfully learns, but when I try to test the command no go. Increasing the repeat number causes the SKYFi unit to drop to to its default station, but only occasionally.
Here is the code learned in raw format

R06C4402120402020404020204021202120212021204020

As I have searched around I have found out that this remote uses parity???? Is that possible and what are the implications
of that. I do have a ccf file that supposed has all the ir commands in it. I can't use it but I did decompile it to try to get at some of the commands
which do not seem to work either. Would that be of any help to you??

Ed

Hmmm,

The other thing you 'might' try is a LOWERING the repeat count and experimenting with counts of 1, 2, and 3.

Having the .CCF would be *very* helpful. Can you email it to me at support@usbuirt.com ?

Thanks,

Jon

I have tried all sorts of repeat counts. It makes no difference.
I have been looking into the parity thing I mentioned. Apparently the
device needs to receieve a second code which from what I have read does nothing but sets the unit up to receive another command. Does that make any sense. I will send the CCF off. It has some other devices in it, but the XM part is pretty obious.

Thanks,
ED

OK, I'll look at the CCF. If you want to factor out parity (for the code(s) you learned), try this:

1. Use you remote to send some code to the XM receiver.
2. Then, try sending a button from the USB-UIRT (use a repeat of 4).
3. Use your remote again
4. Use the USB-UIRT again.
5. Use your remote exactly twice.
6. Try the USB-UIRT again

By interchanging, your remote in this sequence, you're trying all parity options.

-Jon

Thanks,
I'll give it a try!
Ed

Here's one more thing to try:

Import the following code for the '1d'? button.

In Girder, go to the USB-UIRT driver settings page, click 'Learn', then click 'Import', CHECK the button which says 'import as raw', and then PASTE the following code:

0000 0074 0021 0000 0040 003f 0020 0020 0020 0020 0040 003f 0020 0020 0040 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 003f 0020 0c5f 0040 003f 0020 0020 0020 0020 0040 003f 0020 0020 0040 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 003f 0020 0c60 0040 003f 0020 0020 0020 0020 0040 003f 0020 0020 0040 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 003f 0020 003f

and click OK. Set the Repeat to '1' and test this code as well.

-Jon

Doing line on and two -works
Line 3 no effect
Line 4 No Effect
Line 5 Works
Line 6 No effect

I also tryed the raw code you sent. The system responds by going to the default channel 1.

I'm sure this means something to you.....

ED

Well, good, I suppose. It looks like the imported code worked. So, can you:

1. Learn the '1d'? button from your remote.
2. Post the learned code here.
3. Test transmit that code with a repeat of 3.

I'll compare the learned code with the imported code and hopefully something will turn up.

-Jon

Just to be sure I am correct. The orginal code I sent you I think was for the number one key. Is that what you mean by 1d (?decimel)

ED

I'm not sure, I got the pronto code from the .ccf and the button is labelled "1d". To be sure, could you learn in raw mode your '1' button EXACTLY TWICE without pressing the button between learns. Post both Raw learned codes.

Another thing which is interesting about the Pronto code is that it is set up to send the code exactly 3 times. So, that's why it would useful to try sending your learned code with a Repeat of 3.

-Jon